tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post6380035534147054388..comments2024-02-23T18:09:21.379-05:00Comments on Solving the JonBenet Ramsey Case: The Basement Window -- Part 3DocGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-80442137510503992582017-12-11T02:17:07.677-05:002017-12-11T02:17:07.677-05:00I like your thinking about the web not being intac...I like your thinking about the web not being intact. If the web was intact, the theory is a grown adult could not climb out the window without disturbing the web. Assuming, the web is intact, could a child ingress or egress from the window without disturbing the web? Could Jonbenet herself have exited the window using the suitcase below?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-53941210789841512932017-01-01T18:41:34.972-05:002017-01-01T18:41:34.972-05:00If you continue to read you'll see that I do t...If you continue to read you'll see that I do take that into account. In brief: spiders don't weave broken cobwebs. What you see in the video is not an intact web, but remnants of a web that was probably sitting on that window when it was broken. There is nothing about those remnants that can tell us when it was broken. Those fragments might well have been produced on the night of the murder.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-83938823310231284142017-01-01T11:55:32.077-05:002017-01-01T11:55:32.077-05:00There is a problem with your theory. When I viewed...There is a problem with your theory. When I viewed the crime scene video there appeared to be cobwebs on the broken window which appears to support the claim that the window was broken months prior. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07212528291052044967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-81075429571902720282016-11-26T06:33:53.289-05:002016-11-26T06:33:53.289-05:00The grate was in place when the police arrived, ye...The grate was in place when the police arrived, yes. And yes, I believe John would have displaced that grate on the following day (or night) if all had gone according to plan.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-17026442802571292862016-11-26T03:41:34.450-05:002016-11-26T03:41:34.450-05:00http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/grate-covers-a...http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/grate-covers-a-basement-window-at-the-home-of-john-and-patsy-ramsey-picture-id805877<br /><br />This is a picture of the exterior basement window w/grate.<br /><br />If someone removed the grate and jumped down the well,would they be able to move the grate back in place while sandwiched in that area?<br /><br />Was the metal grate in place when the police arrived?<br /><br />Is this believed to be the major part of staging that JR didn't have time to finish (i.e., moving the grate so it was not in place or askew when the police arrived)?<br />Kat<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-13078229743728055982016-11-12T06:31:08.853-05:002016-11-12T06:31:08.853-05:00No intruder fits, exactly, but a guest in the hous...No intruder fits, exactly, but a guest in the house fits.GBPMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08623780757550531365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-72243344862323446482016-02-02T23:55:58.933-05:002016-02-02T23:55:58.933-05:00I only discovered your blog 3 days ago & find ...I only discovered your blog 3 days ago & find it fascinating reading. I apologise if this has been discussed, but one of the many things that really puzzles me is what happened to the "evidence". The undies JB was wearing when going to bed, the pieces of glass from the broken window, the missing pages from the notepad? Was any of that ever found, and if not, how did the perp manage to get rid of it?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911965868725581107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-62062961273327450142016-01-20T11:22:54.479-05:002016-01-20T11:22:54.479-05:00Sorry, Violet, but I missed your comment when it w...Sorry, Violet, but I missed your comment when it was first posted. And yes, you make an excellent point. Actually, since this house was a mansion of sorts, the locks were probably not of the kind that lock automatically when you close the door, since that sort of lock is not very secure. I'd imagine they'd have needed to lock the door behind them every time they went out -- which makes it unlikely John could have left without his key. I wonder if it's still possible to check on the type of locks they had.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-22825762634027093662015-12-29T15:04:41.535-05:002015-12-29T15:04:41.535-05:00Another thought: Did investigators ask JR via whic...Another thought: Did investigators ask JR via which door he exited when he *departed* for his business trip? If he didn't take his car, he didn't exit via the garage. Did he leave out the front door, side door, what? <br /><br />If he were truly locked out upon his return -- and I think any reasonable being would check all doors and windows first, before going so far as to BREAK a window to get in -- then upon his departure he would have had to deliberately lock the door by hand and pull it closed behind him on his way out. <br /><br />How could he not notice and/or remember such an unusual, non-habitual action -- since he went in and out via garage "98%" of the time? Even if he realized it a few seconds too late (as one does when locking keys in the car by accident), he could have then contacted neighbors to leave a key for him upon his return.Violetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-46425775513102371322015-12-29T14:48:17.666-05:002015-12-29T14:48:17.666-05:00Was Burke ever questioned about whether that windo...Was Burke ever questioned about whether that window was broken, and when? Didn't he and sometimes his friends play down there a lot? Surely he would have noticed, especially once the temperature dropped after the end of summer.Violetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-74931335132182085342015-12-28T14:08:15.887-05:002015-12-28T14:08:15.887-05:00Can you supply a reference for that?Can you supply a reference for that?DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-32845246036443130082015-12-28T13:18:00.624-05:002015-12-28T13:18:00.624-05:00Yes, at one point, John DID say he had read to JB....Yes, at one point, John DID say he had read to JB.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-36813281347969153822015-11-07T22:24:51.376-05:002015-11-07T22:24:51.376-05:00If she'd been up all night murdering her daugh...If she'd been up all night murdering her daughter, penetrating her vagina and strangling her in the filthiest part of the basement, her clothes would have been a royal mess and she'd certainly have showered and changed.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-69496447835867958182015-11-07T19:05:29.718-05:002015-11-07T19:05:29.718-05:00What about Det. Thomas claim that PR answered the ...What about Det. Thomas claim that PR answered the the door to Det French wearing the same clothes from the previous night?Christine915https://www.blogger.com/profile/17672452778392650002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-13031743041642822552015-03-02T18:09:29.567-05:002015-03-02T18:09:29.567-05:00Thanks for clearing that up for me. I couldn'...Thanks for clearing that up for me. I couldn't remember exactly who talked about the lack of footprints, but then I've read so much in such a short time that sometimes it gets a little confusing. Also, I found the suggestion (by Lou Smit maybe?) that the suitcase was placed in front of the window as a way to climb out pretty ridiculous. Instead of positioning an unsteady suitcase in front of the window and attempting to climb up and out, I would suggest one simply walk out a door. Just my two cents.JusticeNeedednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-3968768967771516242015-03-02T15:59:33.280-05:002015-03-02T15:59:33.280-05:00Yes, that's very similar to my take as well. I...Yes, that's very similar to my take as well. It was a policeman who very early noticed no footprints anywhere. There was not only snow but also a layer of frost that pervaded the entire lawn. So if someone had entered via that window well, the signs of disturbance would have been clear. Also, an intact spider web was noticed, connecting the grate to the lawn. The police who noticed these details may well have mentioned something and been overheard by John.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-77990758799786239832015-03-02T13:12:33.378-05:002015-03-02T13:12:33.378-05:00I agree that breaking the window and leaving the g...I agree that breaking the window and leaving the glass on the floor was probably part of JR's initial plan. However, I think there may have been another reason for then cleaning it up. Obviously, JR was an intelligent man (as many seem to point out in claiming he would never have been so dumb), but it stands to reason that JR would have been working fast that night to cover his butt and, under the stress of having just killed his daughter and the fear of being caught, would not be thinking as clearly as usual. I believe he had finished his staging of the window, until early that morning after others had arrived. If I remember correctly, I read that someone (I believe one of this friends) made the observation that there were no tracks in the snow (correct me if I'm wrong). If someone had told John that, he should have instantly realized that his window staging could become a huge problem. Now he has no choice but to UNstage the window breaking. After all, had they found a freshly broken window - as an obvious point of entry - but no tracks outside to or from the window, they would have immediately realized the scene was staged. There are arguments about whether or not there was enough snow to leave tracks, but it doesn't matter at that moment. All that would matter was that someone may have mentioned this to JR and had he believed that to be true, he would have realized that this was a detail he forgot. He would have to then clean up the mess and claim he had broken the window earlier.JusticeNeedednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-701392380292689752015-01-10T11:29:42.605-05:002015-01-10T11:29:42.605-05:00John never claimed he read to JonBenet. He said he...John never claimed he read to JonBenet. He said he did some reading of his own before going to sleep. And I don't recall any statement by Patsy alleging that she said prayers with JonBenet. According to her testimony, JBR was "zonked."<br /><br />If you read more in this blog (and other writings on this case) you'll learn more about the details that bother you.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-79626838072320245622015-01-10T11:25:49.729-05:002015-01-10T11:25:49.729-05:00Breaking the window and leaving the glass on the f...Breaking the window and leaving the glass on the floor was part of John's initial plan. However, that plan was destroyed when Patsy called 911. Since he was unable to complete his window staging, John was forced to change his plan and claim he had broken in earlier that year. Which is why it was necessary for him to clean up that glass. For details you need to read more carefully in this blog.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-66377525571151816392015-01-10T05:42:35.293-05:002015-01-10T05:42:35.293-05:00I also think if JR was ever really locked out of t...I also think if JR was ever really locked out of the house, it was because Patsy locked him out during a fight that they didn't want to admit. I wonder why they didn't finish passing out gifts on their drive home, sometimes I wonder if JB ever made it home alive at all that night. It was "getting late" they say but it seems to me they took a detour from their plans for other reasons. They claim she was sound asleep and JR read to her. He sat up and read to a sleeping child?? PR claims she said prayers with her. Again, with a sleeping child?? They lied about so many things. Why?? 1. She was asleep 2.She had no pineapple that was on the table 3. The window and the list goes on..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-35163731026697964122015-01-10T05:27:23.814-05:002015-01-10T05:27:23.814-05:00I still can't understand why you would break a...I still can't understand why you would break a window and clean up the glass, isn't leaving the glass there more believable?? I always thought JR made up his break in story in case they found his finger prints on or near the window.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-1746563607236809052014-07-30T14:16:23.682-04:002014-07-30T14:16:23.682-04:00That's a very interesting thought. I don't...That's a very interesting thought. I don't have an automatic garage door so never thought about a keypad. I wonder if anyone who knew the Ramseys might be reading here and might know whether their garage door had a keypad.<br /><br />And of course there are many people who are convinced of JR's innocence -- and for good reasons. He was "ruled out" by those forensic document "experts" -- and later "exonerated" by DA Mary Lacy.<br /><br />Of course they were all mistaken, but for those who haven't been following the case all that carefully the intruder theory makes sense.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-36235357205754120552014-07-30T09:48:13.587-04:002014-07-30T09:48:13.587-04:00I know this is a LONG time after this was written,...I know this is a LONG time after this was written, but something just occurred to me: WAS THERE NOT A KEYPAD FOR THE GARAGE DOOR??? When we are locked out of our house, we use the KEYPAD mounted on the garage door frame! <br /><br />Now, we lived in Boulder for a time but I can't remember if any of those fancy houses had keypads/were allowed to have keypads. But I think they must've.<br /><br />I know someone who used to work at Access Graphics and they swear up and down JR is innocent. It's so hard to reconcile because I trust this person's judgment, but I think they are wrong in this case. I lean toward BR until the garrote. Then I can't see anyone but JR being the culprit. And this broken window story, even WITHOUT the keypad addition, is just too silly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-75425004615358011802014-05-05T22:40:50.634-04:002014-05-05T22:40:50.634-04:00Helgoth was only one of several "promising&qu...Helgoth was only one of several "promising" suspects, every one of which looked almost too good to be true. All were investigated, and all were exonerated. As I understand it, Helgoth's boots were examined and did not match the print found in the basement. And an ex-con, a certain Gigax, was named by Tracey as Helgoth's partner in crime -- only Tracey claimed he was unable to locate this person. Well, an Internet forum sleuth managed to locate him in about 10 minutes, using Google. He cooperated with the police and it turns out he had an ironclad alibi.<br /><br />But that's not what really matters. The fact is that this was simply NOT the sort of crime where some anonymous intruder would waltz into the house, attack his victim and split. There were simply too many other aspects of the crime that could not be so easily explained, such as 1. a lengthy, carefully written note (all i's dotted, all "t"s crossed, left margin carefully adhered to, consistent spacing between words, almost perfect spelling and grammar, etc.), WRITTEN ON A PAD FROM THE HOUSE; 2. the body of the victim hidden away in the most remote room in the house (why?); 3. the body redressed in panties much too large, panties that could only have been retrieved from drawer in an upstairs bedroom; 4. the "kidnap" victim not kidnapped; 5. a broken window under which packing peanuts from the window well were strewn, yet which no one could have passed through. <br /><br />I don't care whom you suspect, NO intruder would have had reason to do any of the above, let alone all of the above. Sure someone like Helgoth might look good on paper, at first, but when you take ALL the evidence into account, NO intruder fits.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-5876531261985786792014-05-05T17:38:24.758-04:002014-05-05T17:38:24.758-04:00I love your blog DocG, keep up the great work! :) ...I love your blog DocG, keep up the great work! :) I check it daily. <br />I am fascinated by the Ramsey case, and I have read everything known to man on this case. YOUR theory seems the most plausible to me, by far.<br />I do have some questions, and I was wondering if you could share your thoughts on them. Regarding a jonbenet documentary that aired in the bbc, via the help of Michael Tracey:<br />1.) Do you think micheal helgoth seems like a probable suspect??? (When Wolf dog hairs, high tech boots, and a stun gun were ALL found in his house. (All these elements were proven to be at the Crime scene of JB)<br />2.) helgoths suicide was very suspicious and police expect fowl play. He was Killed right after DA stated the list of suspects narrows. Do you think all these elements could be merely coincidental???<br />3.) I tend to agree with your theory 99%.... But 1 % of me thinks there are too many factors pointing to helgoth and another suspect involved.<br />Would love to hear your thoughts, thank you!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com