tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post5552235784521215782..comments2024-02-23T18:09:21.379-05:00Comments on Solving the JonBenet Ramsey Case: Still More on BurkeDocGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comBlogger75125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-42189313856613164142016-09-12T18:30:31.637-04:002016-09-12T18:30:31.637-04:00O and on the autopsy it does indeed have proof she...O and on the autopsy it does indeed have proof she was molestedAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01915445677753347808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-79447605999632266772016-09-12T18:28:13.765-04:002016-09-12T18:28:13.765-04:00wow...a little paranoid are we?wow...a little paranoid are we?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01915445677753347808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-12824513054170689072016-03-22T04:50:25.192-04:002016-03-22T04:50:25.192-04:00I believe Burke committed the crime..I believe Jon...I believe Burke committed the crime..I believe Jon Benet caught him up that night poking holes with his knife into the gifts that did not belong to them (but the cousins gifts meant to b given another day) I think he n her got into it n he probably snapped did her harm drug her downstairs n completed his portion of the act..I think the statement of the 911 phone call enhancement where Burke is heard pleading "what do I do" is a good indicator of this and of course Patsy would freak be hysterical while on the line with 911 as things are unfolding she just woke up to her little girl murdered by her son! I think both parents took the risks and covered up for Burke by staging what they could of the scene..Patsy writing the note n John reapplying panties (hoping to keep the sexual assault not evident at that moment) the covering of her body with the sheet/blanket suggests remorse..either by Burke after the fact or John in having to cover it up..I believe Burke was capable of the knot n sexual assault..however it couldve been used to muddy the waters by the parents .there couldve been abuse to Burke causing this psychotic break and also previous sexual behavior w the siblings..maybe John sexually abused Burke n Burke continued that behavior w his sister.would make alot of sense in why he acted the way he did n said what he said during his child psychologist interview and it also helps explain why the parents would go to the extent to cover it up (even if Patsy didn't know of the abuse John would def make sure she complied anyways using her emotions with Burke she already lost one child) and the thing that's holding people up is the window n the body still being present..they just probably panicked a bit did their best in the short amount of time they had (because they would've known the Ramsey's were scheduled for flight by flight log n therefore they needed to act quickly ..they didnt have all the time some state on here) they never planned on moving the body..one no time two could b seen three that couldve spread evidence n DNA in areas they didn't want it and FOUR being the most probable they wanted their babys body safe to be laid to rest appropriately after all this..think about it youre not gonna go throw her outside somewhere ..Patsy was probably the one most likely to crack but now that she's deceased I don't think either John nor Burke will ever tell the truth both for their own reasons I'm sure..I do however think burke will reoffend..if he in fact committed this crime like I think.even if Burke wasn't abused the distant behaviors of his dad n his mom preoccupied by his sister couldve easily damaged him to the point he was broken emotionally n shit off himself n add in being spoiled and alone to his own thoughts n devices..perfect storm for a 9 yr old to start commiting sexual acts along with increasing violence or behavior to get someone to pay attention..Questionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01140081209377822780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-64237799755247838882016-03-02T16:46:08.141-05:002016-03-02T16:46:08.141-05:00I am new to this blog and throughly fascinated by ...I am new to this blog and throughly fascinated by the logical thought process. Here is my question, how could John Ramsey raise two older daughters with no history of abuse, abuse and murder Jonbenet and then continue to live a normal life. Wouldn't there be some red flags by now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-70081374489890653322016-01-26T08:43:41.024-05:002016-01-26T08:43:41.024-05:00I am almost finished reading Kohler's book. I ...I am almost finished reading Kohler's book. I have already read Steve Thomas's and it was very interesting. I was 7 years old when JonBenet was murdered but I still remember it all over the news and it was very scary. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-61584417222634300342016-01-26T08:40:27.018-05:002016-01-26T08:40:27.018-05:00Dear Elizabeth, I just sent you an email. I am ver...Dear Elizabeth, I just sent you an email. I am very interested to know what you heard the night of the 25th/morning of the 26th. Thank you so much. Heidi Hmdance2008@aol.com Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-18846126940456840192015-12-02T00:58:55.207-05:002015-12-02T00:58:55.207-05:00Burke totally did this crime........which is why I...Burke totally did this crime........which is why I search his name to this day and ensure any of my children's friends don't date someone by his name. There is no proof whatsoever that she was sexually invaded, or molested, and facts are facts, Burke was not of legal age to charge, or investigate such a crime, but yet the DNA evidence showed close family DNA, and so the story goes............he's running free, probably not living easily knowing someone out there remember's his name or his (favorited hated) sisters name that peed the bed...............but either way, if you get away with a crime like this once, .............think of the future. TY and rest well everyone.......just do background checks on your daughters boyfriends. Jostlyn Weaver Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13590872447406703493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-16744350415145232982015-11-03T18:46:54.256-05:002015-11-03T18:46:54.256-05:00I lived in Boulder 3 houses down from the Ramsey&#...I lived in Boulder 3 houses down from the Ramsey's. I was awake midnight of <br />Dec 25/26 with my bedroom open on my side of the bed . No one spoke to me 12/26 or after although one reporter chatted with my husband that day.<br />If anyone is interested in knowing what I did or did not hear, let me know! <br />Elizabeth.nepaligypsy@gmail.comHimalayanhikerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15643928357360950671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-61064795940319897192015-01-16T13:51:28.046-05:002015-01-16T13:51:28.046-05:00The note gave the killer a perfect alibi for being...The note gave the killer a perfect alibi for being seen leaving the house. He could have claimed he was delivering the ransom. But NOT on the same night as the murder, no. The following night.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-8935195519890803482015-01-15T12:38:50.221-05:002015-01-15T12:38:50.221-05:00Who says they did try to stage a Kidnapping gone r...Who says they did try to stage a Kidnapping gone right scenario? The body was in a place the police didn't even find it. The police seemed to believe that JonBenet had been successfully taken from the house. But they just didn't leave. Jon eventually took the police to the body. By that point it was probably clear they were never going to get the body out of the house undetected if that had been their plan. Sure they could have taken the body out of the house before they called the police, but I think they would be terrified of being seen leaving since anyone noticing them leave in the middle of the night on the same night their daughter disappeared would totally blow the whole deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-44924939081009606852014-06-27T09:14:40.651-04:002014-06-27T09:14:40.651-04:00First, there is no evidence that DNA was planted. ...First, there is no evidence that DNA was planted. Second, your scenario is inconsistent with the fact that Patsy called 911 with JBR's body still in the house. Third, I see no reason to involved Patsy if we assume that John was the molester. If he was molesting her then he would have been the one with a motive to murder her. Since as I have demonstrated, his writing is far closer to the writing on the note than Patsy's, it looks to me as though he did it all and she had nothing to do with it. For details, please read more in this blog.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-24802501486057226522014-06-27T06:22:02.323-04:002014-06-27T06:22:02.323-04:00Please allow me to elaborate: On one of the earlie...Please allow me to elaborate: On one of the earlier 'Unsolved Mysteries' episodes, there was discussion and luminol tests conducted in the kitchen in and around the kitchen table where JonBenet was seated, eating her bowl of food. The Luminol test showed blood spatter up the wall, around the floor and some minute blood spatters on a table leg... The blood was cleaned up well enough that DNA was not obtainable from most of the kitchen but the small spatter were consistent with that of JBR,and from all I have seen and heard here is my scenario, and this is ONLY my opinion based on all the evidences provided from multiple sources: <br />In weak state of Patsy's health , John turns his sexual frustrations to his daughter (less uncommon than most people think) leading to JonBenet wetting the bed. <br />That night after JR does his act, JonBenet cleans herself up a bit and goes downstairs to eat some food to try to comfort herself.<br />PR awakes to check on JBR, and discovers the mess in the bed, and goes downstairs. In a rage of the mess (has been stated over and over PR was getting furious over the bed soiling issue) and comes up from behind, and smacks JBR in the head with a hard blunt object, harder than she anticipated (autopsy showed mass blood pooling on the brain, and in the area of crushed skull indicating this nearly HAD to be the first blow). JBR falls to the floor bleeding and convulsing. <br />PR then gets JR, and they together grab the blanket and wrap her up and take her into the basement realizing they just made the mistake of their lives, now they HAVE to cover their tracks.<br />PR KNOWS JR has been having his way with JBR, so now they are both in it deep. In a desperate attempt, they finish her off. In an effort to cover their tracks, they devise this scheme of an elaborate "outsider break-in" including obtaining "foreign DNA" to throw the police off their backs, ransom note etc., dispose of anything to prove the tampering, then take a small nap, and call police.<br />When police arrive, JUST to help cover up more, they take the opportunity to help even diminish THAT evidence while "trying to co-operate with police", creating a nearly unsolvable crime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-17909301008932257922014-06-27T05:49:54.372-04:002014-06-27T05:49:54.372-04:00What are the odds that with the repeated molestati...What are the odds that with the repeated molestation of this girl, may have been committed by the father (less and less unlikely anymore, sad to say) and the mother by accident injured the child, so in a desperate attempt, they conspired to create the cover-up jointly to cover their joint actions - one of those you don't rat me out, I don't rat you out concepts. Have known couples to come together in times of crisis with underlying blackmail on each other... and in fear of repercussions both will take to their graves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-67202414123436941242014-05-28T09:47:12.736-04:002014-05-28T09:47:12.736-04:00Thanks for posting that link. I knew Linda had wri...Thanks for posting that link. I knew Linda had written a book but I'd assumed none of it ever got published. All I've ever seen was an interview in one of the tabloids.<br /><br />It's important to realize that she was put up to writing that book by her lawyer, none other than Darnay Hoffman, the same person who hired all those handwriting "experts" who claimed Patsy wrote the note. (The consensus of the far more qualified LE experts was "unlikely".) And the theory presented in the book is in fact Darnay's theory, based on Steve Thomas's theory -- which as I've demonstrated on this blog, is a totally unlikely fantasy. The smoothly literary language tells me the book was ghost written, probably by Darnay himself, so everything in it needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt -- because Darnay did everything within his power to pin the murder on Patsy. It seems clear to me that he manipulated Linda with the hope that her book would make lots of money. To my knowledge, it was, for some reason, never published.<br /><br />She did not stop working for the Ramseys prior to the murder. Where did you get that?<br /><br />As for the possibility that Linda was involved, it's no more likely than any other theory that's ever been floated about this case, involving roughly a dozen "likely" suspects. What all these theories have in common is that they can't account for all the circumstances of the case. If Linda were involved with some others in a plot to kidnap JonBenet, then she would have been kidnapped. But she wasn't. The note would not have been hand written but printed. (Actually a note wasn't needed -- a phone call first thing in the morning would have worked as well.) And there would certainly have been no need to use a note pad taken from the house. While Linda claims she sees Patsy's writing style and handwriting in the note, it's clear that the note is not an attempt to forge either John or Patsy's hand, and no one experienced with handwriting analysis has ever even suggested that. And in fact, as I've demonstrated, the writing in the note looks nothing like Patsy's hand, regardless of what Linda (i.e., Darnay) has claimed.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-88631382781394239612014-05-28T08:47:41.439-04:002014-05-28T08:47:41.439-04:00LHP knew every detail of the Ramseys and the house...LHP knew every detail of the Ramseys and the house, she mentions it so boldly in her book please read it, she talks about PR handwriting and how she use to watch her and take note of the phrases. Besides PR and JR knowing about the knife she did too. I think this is her confession, how she the murder played out. She could easily have hired someone to do it, she had the keys. She stopped working for the Ramseys 3 days before murder. And from what I can tell she sounds very bitter<br /><br />http://someoneisgettingawaywithmurder.blogspot.com/2010/11/death-of-innocent.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-80565003552082166742014-05-28T08:42:13.182-04:002014-05-28T08:42:13.182-04:00Please read this: I believe the housekeeper did it...Please read this: I believe the housekeeper did it<br /><br />http://someoneisgettingawaywithmurder.blogspot.com/2010/11/death-of-innocent.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-10045087747908382832014-05-14T09:01:16.184-04:002014-05-14T09:01:16.184-04:00the helgoth theory is bullshit. stun gun was never...the helgoth theory is bullshit. stun gun was never used.lee dumetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069478296393921019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-58804250092169454162014-05-06T18:04:08.245-04:002014-05-06T18:04:08.245-04:00I love your blog DocG, keep up the great work! :) ...I love your blog DocG, keep up the great work! :) I check it daily. <br />I am fascinated by the Ramsey case, and I have read everything known to man on this case. YOUR theory seems the most plausible to me, by far.<br />I do have some questions, and I was wondering if you could share your thoughts on them. Regarding a jonbenet documentary that aired in the bbc, via the help of Michael Tracey:<br />1.) Do you think micheal helgoth seems like a probable suspect??? (When Wolf dog hairs, high tech boots, and a stun gun were ALL found in his house. (All these elements were proven to be at the Crime scene of JB)<br />2.) helgoths suicide was very suspicious and it strongly appears foul play. He was Killed right after DA stated the list of suspects narrows. Do you think all these elements could be merely coincidental???<br />3.) I tend to agree with your theory 99%.... But 1 % of me thinks there are too many factors pointing to helgoth and another suspect involved.<br />Would love to hear your thoughts, thank you!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-21234221542332642822014-03-26T10:20:44.783-04:002014-03-26T10:20:44.783-04:00I too would be reluctant to picture Patsy as a rel...I too would be reluctant to picture Patsy as a religious fanatic. Otherwise, however, Myrtle's assessment makes sense to me. Patsy went through chemotherapy, which could have affected her memory, and was also under heavy sedation, which may well have made her vulnerable to manipulation by John and his lawyers. And she DID come from a cultural milieu in which women were expected to defer to their husbands. I don't see that as a sexist remark at all. This is in fact the sort of observation many feminists have made.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-42927345016946463842014-03-25T23:57:41.105-04:002014-03-25T23:57:41.105-04:00Myrtle, seriously you cannot think that college-ed...Myrtle, seriously you cannot think that college-educated women raised in the 60's and 70's are deferential to men as you suggest. As a southern woman who is the same age as Patsy, holds an engineering degree from a southern college, I cannot name one female who would behave as you suggest. Patsy could have been afraid, and then we know she was heavily sedated. I must say, you sound like a bigot yourself, if for no other reason than you refer to her as a religious fanatic! What do you base that on? Her being a Prebyterian or Episcopalian?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-10448876722544049102014-03-03T12:44:18.942-05:002014-03-03T12:44:18.942-05:00Mary/ Myrtle, I must say your assessment of the ps...Mary/ Myrtle, I must say your assessment of the psychology rings true to me. Although I'm skeptical regarding the significance of psychological analysis (or profiling) in establishing guilt, it is certainly a useful tool in helping us understand what happened and why. Your observations are convincing. Thanks.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-29212446972000006272014-03-03T12:21:57.180-05:002014-03-03T12:21:57.180-05:00I am new to this, but have just read the Ramsey...I am new to this, but have just read the Ramsey's, Kolar's and DocG's books. That said, I have not seen independent analysis of the psychology and character of the Ramsays. <br /><br />Some thoughts:<br /><br />John was said to have had a 2 year affair which broke up his first marriage. That would entail an ability to live a life of lying and deception for years. Where is the so-called devoted father and husband in this?<br /><br />Then, he met and married Patsy who was just out of college. What did she think she was getting? This is certainly whitewashed in the "Death of Innocence" book, where<br />his first marriage is barely acknowledged. They almost infer that the "older kids" belong to both of them. <br /><br />Also, the Philippines is notorious for being a sexual playground for American servicemen. Did this have an effect on John which led to comfort with adultery?<br />Did he develop habits which required him to frequently be away from home "on business"? Did financial concerns, a sick wife, and a sexualized daughter push him over some kind of brink?<br /><br />Patsy's cancer could have caused some of her puzzling behavior. There is such a<br />thing as chemo-brain. Plus, she may have been taking hormone suppressant drugs<br />even after she was declared cancer free. These drugs, and anti-depressants can cause fuzzy thinking and delusion. Her inability to think clearly could account for her failure to suspect her husband or challenge his conflicting statements and weird behavior. Also, she was the product of a sexist Southern culture which expects women to defer to and follow their husbands, no matter what.<br /><br />Her beauty pageant ambitions for JonBenet are distasteful, and in retrospect show poor judgment, but I do not think she could have had anything to do with the horrible desecration of her daughter's body. Even if she hadn't been devoted to JonBenet, which she clearly was, to destroy the child's beauty would be unthinkable.<br /><br />What appeared to be her cover-up statements and behavior were engineered by her husband and his lawyers. It seems to me, she was a drugged out religious fanatic, and why wouldn't she be? What could she do if she came to the conclusion there was no intruder? Her husband was her strength, her support, and the source of her income.<br />How could she face the fact that it might all be an illusion? Who would listen to her,<br />since she was under suspicion herself?<br /><br />Any thoughts?<br /><br />Myrtle<br /><br />Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01972515295071878942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-88873357205424878012014-02-24T07:09:38.886-05:002014-02-24T07:09:38.886-05:00How could the consequences of their actions not en...How could the consequences of their actions not enter their minds when they were suspects in a murder case? If this was staged to cover for Burke (and it wasn't) then it was staged so badly that it made it look as if at least one, and possibly both, parents killed JBR then staged a phoney kidnapping. <br /><br />They ran substantial risk of being prosecuted for murder, and they continued to run that risk for years. There is no reason for that level of risk when BR could not be charged. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-10343768888892345292014-02-24T06:54:53.004-05:002014-02-24T06:54:53.004-05:00Re: the garrotte,
First, I don't believe BDI...Re: the garrotte, <br /><br />First, I don't believe BDI for a moment, but for the sake of discussion let's say it was BDI and BR made and applied the garrotte. <br /><br />I suppose that JR/PR might have little choice but to leave the garrotte, as it's obvious JBR is dead, and just as obvious she's been strangled. To remove the garrote would still leave the tell-tale signs of ligature strangulation and would raise the question - why would the intruder remove it? <br /><br />The only reasonable explanation for JR/PR removing the garrotte would be if they thought JBR might still be alive. They'd remove the garrotte and check for signs of breathing. Of course this would be followed by a call for an ambulance, not a call about a RN and pretending not to know where JBR is. <br /><br />CHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-70362907093251428342014-02-17T20:42:24.340-05:002014-02-17T20:42:24.340-05:00Brooke,
It is refreshing to see someone reasonin...Brooke, <br /><br />It is refreshing to see someone reasoning logically about the case. <br /><br />CHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com