tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post9068502984083839753..comments2024-02-23T18:09:21.379-05:00Comments on Solving the JonBenet Ramsey Case: Hot Off the Press:Doubtful DNA DocGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comBlogger276125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-48522222982470500422016-11-01T07:42:52.460-04:002016-11-01T07:42:52.460-04:00If John used it to walk Burke back upstairs, he...If John used it to walk Burke back upstairs, he'd have to have left prints somewhere on the flashlight. So, either he didn't use it that night - which means he's lying now - or he did use it that night, wiped it of prints, and lied about not recognizing it when the police asked him about it. <br />Either way, John's lying. Why? Ms Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15732858990595163048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-51006412213969325732016-11-01T07:41:08.329-04:002016-11-01T07:41:08.329-04:00If John used it to walk Burke back upstairs, he...If John used it to walk Burke back upstairs, he'd have to have left prints somewhere on the flashlight. So, either he didn't use it that night - which means he's lying now - or he did use it that night, wiped it of prints, and lied about not recognizing it when the police asked him about it. <br />Either way, John's lying. Why? Ms Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15732858990595163048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-29370440325989046232016-10-31T23:45:25.330-04:002016-10-31T23:45:25.330-04:00I agree with everything you say, Jessika....minus ...I agree with everything you say, Jessika....minus the part about forging Patsy's handwriting. To implicate Patsy would also implicate John. Besides, that note was really only intended for Patsy......no need to forge her hand. Ms Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15732858990595163048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-14480608885417546352016-10-31T23:35:24.498-04:002016-10-31T23:35:24.498-04:00Inquisitive.....it is you who said, only weeks ago...Inquisitive.....it is you who said, only weeks ago, that Patsy sounded like a guilty woman! <br /><br />Which is it? Ms Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15732858990595163048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-70017625156611613382016-10-31T23:32:07.150-04:002016-10-31T23:32:07.150-04:00Exactly, CC.
Why would an innocent man maintain -...Exactly, CC. <br />Why would an innocent man maintain - for twenty years - he didn't even know who the flashlight belonged to, only to then admit to actually having used this very same flashlight he couldn't even recognize at the time, on the night of his daughter's murder? More importantly, a time in the investigation where, if his daughter was genuinely taken by an intruder, the flashlight was a key piece of evidence, and he knew it? If the flashlight has no significance, why did he lie? If he simply used it to innocently usher Burke upstairs, as he now claims - WHERE ARE JOHN'S FINGER PRINTS?! The recent admission to using a flashlight he'd previously denied all knowledge of is as damning as his fabrication of the breaking of the window "some time last summer". <br /><br />How does John keep telling such monumental lies without LE so much as batting an eyelid? John must honestly not be able to believe his luck. Ms Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15732858990595163048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-75774272322217001112016-10-31T16:48:15.414-04:002016-10-31T16:48:15.414-04:00God bless you Jessika.God bless you Jessika.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-79795953612900105202016-10-31T16:45:27.930-04:002016-10-31T16:45:27.930-04:00Hi Zach. I remember hearing John looked through t...Hi Zach. I remember hearing John looked through the window with binoculars and saw a suspicious van as well - but where? Where did you get it? I heard it too. But if true then that would be consistent with the killers "monitoring" the house to see if police were going to be called, or police were already there. Can't very well call for collection of ransom with police officers there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-5111841571474875682016-10-31T16:37:18.531-04:002016-10-31T16:37:18.531-04:00And as I have said, not an intruder that busted in...And as I have said, not an intruder that busted in through the basement window, but an intruder in the sense that they were not invited to be there, someone intimate with the family, their habits, the layout of the house, someone with a key, someone who planned it well in advance, and someone who had an axe to grind and purposely left clues in order to frame the person she had an axe to grind with. Someone who brought the tape, the cord with them, then staged the crime scene to implicate the home owner in a home she was trusted to be in, with her key, for a year. Someone for whom by her own words had nothing but nasty things to say about her employer, even though the woman showed her nothing but kindness. the police asked Patsy who she thought could have done this and Patsy said her housekeeper had asked for $2,000, but also said she was a sweet woman and did not really suspect her of such a thing. So the police went right over to LHP's and questioned her. At that point, and that was right away but no where near the venom that was to come from her, she steered Thomas and Archuleta into thinking Patsy was disturbed of late over chronic bed wetting and that she had warned her on a previous occasion that someone might want to kidnap JB and Burke. Literally everything I remember hearing back in 1997 that caused me to think Patsy did it came from the rumor and innuendo started by LHP. Shame on me for not understanding more at the time. Not that I obsessed on this case for 20 years, but I've read plenty on it. When it just didn't add up that either parent could have done it I turned my attention to Burke, bolstered by Kolar's book. NOT the CBS special. I see now that he couldn't have done it, because to have done it you would have to include Patsy or John in the rest of it and I can't see that a parent would strangle their child to help another. ANd then sit there and compose a note. Maybe in the Twilight Zone (:)).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-46160993569006363902016-10-31T13:59:06.366-04:002016-10-31T13:59:06.366-04:00to save his hide he had to stage this kidnapping w... to save his hide he had to stage this kidnapping which was foiled by Patsy ,he is the one who put the R-note on the stairs thinking she would read it and believe all that was on it ,"But" she only read we have your daughter ,and the initials SBTC and victory ,she prob' had the note in front of her,, then she proceeded to call nine oneone , first he planned on stuffing her in suitcase with -out Patsy knowing but something hindered his plan, so he placed her on floor in wine cellar leaves her there and "latches the door " when prentending to search for her@ 1:30 pm he then "unlatch" the wine cellar door , , he wrote this long Ransom letter forged Patsy's handwriting prob written days before. He had been shown her penmanship (during deformation)he knew her penmanship but when he was shown the R_note he denied it was her writing ,"how does he know this ? he has excellent penmanship , he can copy anyone's hand writing he has the talent , she was not aware her little girl was dead in basement , hopefully the new DNA will crack this case wide open.... jessikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-20489581682711632872016-10-31T13:40:48.240-04:002016-10-31T13:40:48.240-04:00He said that he check every child for abuse as he...He said that he check every child for abuse as he knows its a problem..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-30485994018136339832016-10-31T13:37:23.210-04:002016-10-31T13:37:23.210-04:00Apparently John likes suspense novels.. as millio...Apparently John likes suspense novels.. as millions of people do..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-55407042692950233802016-10-31T13:37:06.274-04:002016-10-31T13:37:06.274-04:00He wasn't looking for sexual abuse. He was tre...He wasn't looking for sexual abuse. He was treating her for regular checkups. Zachary Feinerman https://www.blogger.com/profile/11158832649910967301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-57254324738327197702016-10-31T13:34:12.638-04:002016-10-31T13:34:12.638-04:00No, it doesnt,, not when she had been treated by a...No, it doesnt,, not when she had been treated by a doctor for vaginitis.. who saw her monthly and never saw signs of abuse and with an intact hymen.. No..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-31305876378757590272016-10-31T13:13:31.765-04:002016-10-31T13:13:31.765-04:00diamondlil16October 31, 2016 at 12:16 AM
"1)...diamondlil16October 31, 2016 at 12:16 AM<br /><br />"1)Wow, I have to ask Mike G if the patients in surgery as well in the CCU were aware and gave permission to have a medical sales person present during their procedures?<br /><br />2)Dr Phil stated Burke has a girlfriend. If he got married after the shows airing, I don't know. <br /><br />3)You raised boys. Weren't they ever sexually curious before puberty?"<br /><br />Diamond<br /><br />1) The short answer to this question is yes, plenty of permission. Hospitals vary in their protocol on how non-hospital personnel are admitted into restricted areas, but the bottom line is, if the doctors want you there, the protocol takes care of itself. I assure you, at least five percent of people you see in scrubs in a major medical center are probably sales people who have been well trained and have lots of experience. Medical sales has a pecking order, and those selling technologies or medical products as oppossed to pharmaceuticals are much higher up that ladder. That the products and technologies I sold were additionally "critical care" products and technologies, put me at the very top of the order(though not necessarily financially!). <br /><br />2) "I believe" prefacing any statement implicitly acknowdeges a degree of uncertainty in what follows. That we both agree Burke has a relationship with a women is the thing that matters, don't you think? <br /><br />3) I suppose everybody is, on some level, sexually curious before puberty. The term "experimenter" as I interpret it in this case suggests a level of interest beyond mere curiousty that would incorporate a partner to experiment on or with. <br />So by this defintion, no, I never saw my sons experimenting, and I know I never did until later in my teens.<br /><br /> <br /> <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-64415407519535974282016-10-31T12:46:52.537-04:002016-10-31T12:46:52.537-04:00Melinda, you're hilarious. "Out of nowher...Melinda, you're hilarious. "Out of nowhere." As if all the board of pediatricians that unanimously agreed prior sexual abuse was legitimate don't factor into anything. Haha. Zachary Feinerman https://www.blogger.com/profile/11158832649910967301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-41638803907731853742016-10-31T12:38:47.323-04:002016-10-31T12:38:47.323-04:00I think the saying is a rue of thumb.. not meant ...I think the saying is a rue of thumb.. not meant to be taken literally. And as I have said.. the only evidence we have is the RN, garrote and a dead body..nothing that can be contributed to anyone... But I dont need solid proof ,, just a reasonable argument. Not all this sex abuse.. Mommy Dearest crap that comes out of nowhere..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-63610152134972085742016-10-31T12:34:00.706-04:002016-10-31T12:34:00.706-04:00I'm not familiar with the Colorado Bar's S...I'm not familiar with the Colorado Bar's Standard of Ethics, but in my state and most others it's unethical to represent parties who have a potential conflict of interest.<br />CCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-59176731401068267582016-10-31T12:27:34.061-04:002016-10-31T12:27:34.061-04:00That's a lovely old cliche Melinda. Doesn'...That's a lovely old cliche Melinda. Doesn't it kind of depend on what the ten guilty me have done, and whether they might do it again? If each of those ten guilty men who go free then kill ten children each, that's a hundred dead kids. Still a price worth paying for not wrongly imprisoning one innocent man?<br /><br />And let's face it, an irrelevant point. John got away with it. <br /><br />You can't find any evidence against them? You are wilfully blind. A hispanic ninja friend of the Pughs who forgets his ransom note, or maybe he writes a new one while he waits, using Patsy's pen and paper, and brings a paperback and a stun gun with him, then knowing he is supposed to kidnap the kid he constructs a garrote using Patsy's brush- but only once the kid is subdued because her hair is in the knot, and he kills her with it.<br /><br />It takes wilful twisting to fail to see that the bizarre ransom note - among many other things - COULD BE evidence against someone in the household. Not proof, I'll grant you, but evidence. <br /><br />You seem to accept things as 'evidence' when making a case against others, but seem to want rock-solid proof when discussing Ramseys. That's clear to everyone here, and it's a double-standard that doesn't reflect well on your integrity.MHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765688604319832245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-48852800381432369962016-10-31T12:20:26.578-04:002016-10-31T12:20:26.578-04:00If that were true and JR were the only guilty part...If that were true and JR were the only guilty party then you would think he would want the same lawyer as PR, not seperate ones. Since JR was running the show and the one financing the lawyers, one would think it was his choice for seperate lawyers?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04737786478506148483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-56783040206748267422016-10-31T12:14:36.359-04:002016-10-31T12:14:36.359-04:00It was reported by Pam Griffin, hardly a "fri...It was reported by Pam Griffin, hardly a "friend of the Ramseys" after they gave her the cold shoulder because she talked to LE and the media. What "other reported incident we know nothing about"? The only feces smearing I recall involved the basement bathroom and was reported by one of the housekeepers or the former nanny. To what "numerous people" are you referring?<br />CC Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-4621707579985133162016-10-31T12:05:15.880-04:002016-10-31T12:05:15.880-04:00It was reported by a friend of the Ramseys that Pa...It was reported by a friend of the Ramseys that Patsy told her BR lost his temper and hit JBR in the face with a golf club. There is also another unreported incident that we know nothing about. The feces smearing was reported by numerous people including LE so just because you think you "can read" a person's body language 20 years later surely does not change those facts. As far as anyone acting like it is such a far fetched notion that BR hit JBR in the head with something is ridiculous. It is not even unlikely, the rest of the story is what is unbelievable. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04737786478506148483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-47483160473075091702016-10-31T11:02:38.406-04:002016-10-31T11:02:38.406-04:00LHP handwriting examplers contained 4 words.. Woul...LHP handwriting examplers contained 4 words.. Would you call that thoroughAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-63683064058537246862016-10-31T10:52:03.950-04:002016-10-31T10:52:03.950-04:00Yes, they had a key. As did several other people, ...Yes, they had a key. As did several other people, according to the Ramsey's own testimony. And that key is basically ALL you've got, Inq. And as far as the knife, blanket, etc. are concerned you have to wonder why Linda would have wanted to advertise her knowledge of those items if she herself had used them to commit a horrible crime. I'd think anyone with half a brain would want to keep a very low profile if they'd been involved in such a heavily scrutinized case.<br /><br />And as far as the timing is concerned, once again there would be NO reason to delay a phone call giving John instructions for his ransom delivery. The only one who could have benefited from that 24 hour delay would have been John.<br /><br />The ONLY piece of real evidence linking Linda to the murder is a key. That's it. And sorry but it's not nearly enough.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-12252186707571927182016-10-31T10:41:41.815-04:002016-10-31T10:41:41.815-04:00Sorry but this doesn't work. I've read pre...Sorry but this doesn't work. I've read pretty much everything on this case. To the point that it's a bit past obsessive. I too once thought the family was innocent just like the public that has been manipulated by the media. My wording could have been better but I do believe Patsy is innocent. If John were innocent he would have no reason to NOT mention this supposed suspicion van he saw when he was looking through Burke's window with binoculars until around the same time Lou Smit was forming his infamous intruder theory. Not mention the fact that the window was unlatched until the intruder theory was formed. No reason to lie about the windows being unlocked after saying they were all locked on the initial day of investigation. No reason to lie about the train room window. No reason to be evasive, deflective, and unhelpful with the investigation. John finding his daughters body in a dark room around the corner without the lights on is suspicious. Finding the body and knowing exactly where to go is suspicious. Denying a flashlight then admitting he used it on the night of the murder 20 years later is suspicious. Right before a special that implicates the flashlight as the murder weapon. How convenient. John saying that the killer was "clever" and was a professional due to the professional garrote. Who the hell calls your daughters killer clever and how the hell does he know what a professional garrote looks like? He acted like a guilty man, not someone trying to find the killer of his daughter. To this day he has been quoted saying he doesn't think about Jonbenet much. You could justify that in a myriad of ways I'm sure, but he isn't even trying to find the killer. I wonder why... Zachary Feinerman https://www.blogger.com/profile/11158832649910967301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-48214856487128164432016-10-31T10:41:07.129-04:002016-10-31T10:41:07.129-04:00Zach - I attempted as have many others on this sit...Zach - I attempted as have many others on this site. No offense to those who want to go along with IDI, but it's pure fantasy. OJ never confessed nor can we say factually that he committed the double murder, but the evidence is what it is. JBR was in no way shape or form killed by an intruder. I don't even want to get into the reasons because I am not looking for a discussion on this. JBR was murdered by either John, Patsy or Burke Ramsey. I believe it to be Burke, but option 4 of an Intruder isn't a choice. Good luck to you if you want to entertain the friendly debates with them :-)<br /><br />-JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com