tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post6420472576408214733..comments2024-02-23T18:09:21.379-05:00Comments on Solving the JonBenet Ramsey Case: Son of More RoomDocGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comBlogger252125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-70258755451027459912016-12-07T17:45:07.554-05:002016-12-07T17:45:07.554-05:00I find it extremely suspicious that John went to h...I find it extremely suspicious that John went to his airplane on Christmas morning. Why the hell would he do that? To clean it like he said? Not buying it. I think this crime was premeditated. If you choose to believe JDI it's hard to buy the fact that he wrote such a composed note after killing his daughter. While he had hours on his hands, I side with everything being planned. Zachary Feinerman https://www.blogger.com/profile/11158832649910967301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-29180029292727548772016-12-07T16:40:10.293-05:002016-12-07T16:40:10.293-05:00I am almost in tears at your note, Ms. D. Thank y...I am almost in tears at your note, Ms. D. Thank you for being so brave. I found out recently that not only did my paternal grandfather molest my three aunts, but also ran a child pornography ring with the county sheriff and his other buddies. This discussion with an aunt who is also a social worker led me to fully realize that I had been molested by my mother's brother, who was a diagnosed sociopath. I feel crushed under the weight of these realizations, especially during this holiday season, and am again reminded why I HATE family secrets and the image of the "Perfect Family". One of my aunts committed suicide because of this, and I still haven't told my dad because I don't think it's my story to tell. I won't "out" my remaining living aunts if they do not feel comfortable telling their brothers what had happened to them. All of this to say, thank you, Ms. D., and to add another voice to the chorus that people molesting children often go undetected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-69163610822427857592016-10-17T14:43:54.384-04:002016-10-17T14:43:54.384-04:00Good point, Doc. And I do think it was all about ...Good point, Doc. And I do think it was all about staging an intruder. I just wonder if there was also some deep-seated anger that made him impulsively point away from himself as a mitigation to getting caught. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-47783038713213272792016-10-17T11:44:37.483-04:002016-10-17T11:44:37.483-04:00The fibers of John's that were found came from...The fibers of John's that were found came from a shirt, not a sweater. And no, I see no reason for John to frame Patsy -- but I do see a reason for the fibers from her jacket to be at the crime scene, via indirect transfer.<br /><br />John's plan was to stage an intruder, period. Framing Patsy would imply that there was no intruder, which would not have helped his cause.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-18538192638749644282016-10-17T01:25:51.777-04:002016-10-17T01:25:51.777-04:00"Logically a kidnapper would take the child. ..."Logically a kidnapper would take the child. Not kill her and leave her there. But think of it this way. Wouldn't John have thought that through? If John had authored that note he would have not left the body there."<br /><br />Wow. Does anyone else here ever get the feeling their posts are a waste of time? <br />How many times have we been through this, now........two hundred and seventeen times, maybe? A conservative estimate....there's no point responding to you, Inquisitive. You're not paying attention.Ms Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15732858990595163048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-76773902547867156462016-10-17T01:20:57.006-04:002016-10-17T01:20:57.006-04:00"I think we are trying to analyze the content..."I think we are trying to analyze the content of the words of the note too much and what they might mean. But analyzing the author is more fruitful."<br /><br />It is through analyzing the content of the note that leads us to the author! Isn't that obvious?Ms Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15732858990595163048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-73184290467849218582016-10-17T00:23:02.220-04:002016-10-17T00:23:02.220-04:00Exactly Anon. Over money, now JR and PR would be g...Exactly Anon. Over money, now JR and PR would be gone and no one was getting half of his money. I guess that really would not make sense though because he could have threw PR under the bus and didnt. I do not know why but I always feel like I am missing 1 big piece of the puzzle in the case. It is never solved in my head.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04737786478506148483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-68370756357840712412016-10-17T00:15:12.112-04:002016-10-17T00:15:12.112-04:00I agree. If he did this then it crossed my mind t...I agree. If he did this then it crossed my mind that he may have wanted to get rid of JBR and PR at the same time. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04737786478506148483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-46413654845142134402016-10-16T23:24:09.255-04:002016-10-16T23:24:09.255-04:00I have wondered about that myself, Keiser. If John...I have wondered about that myself, Keiser. If John did this, then he is a bad, evil man. So I would not put it past him to frame Patsy. I also wonder if he felt that his beauty queen trophy wife had let him down by getting sick, didn't have sex with him the way he wanted, was spending all his money, and basically not living up to what he wanted her to be. There just seems to be some anger involved in what was done to JBR. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-49636668480468610692016-10-16T23:19:02.072-04:002016-10-16T23:19:02.072-04:00PR and JR both had sweaters on. You do not think i...PR and JR both had sweaters on. You do not think it possible that he was trying to frame PR ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04737786478506148483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-593327580729372692016-10-16T23:17:54.027-04:002016-10-16T23:17:54.027-04:00I'm sure what he said was short and sweet. Bur...I'm sure what he said was short and sweet. Burke seems oblivious to this day, doesn't he?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-49224787731495313192016-10-16T23:17:18.500-04:002016-10-16T23:17:18.500-04:00Every garment sheds fibers differently. If Patsy&#...Every garment sheds fibers differently. If Patsy's jacket were similar to a sweater (which makes sense since it was the dead of winter), then it may have shed profusely. Whereas John's shirt may hardly have shed at all.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-90732262353070900622016-10-16T23:16:15.431-04:002016-10-16T23:16:15.431-04:00I believe you up to a point. It's the last li... I believe you up to a point. It's the last line. As I think Patsy knew since she found a dead JB, no need to call an ambulance, she writes the note and at some point PR tells JR that BR did it but I'm not sure when. Probably before police got there as he had to walk around the house and probably move her body from outside the wine cellar into the wine cellar and see what she left out, break a window, etc. Too late to do it the way he would have done it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-2967598722096464682016-10-16T23:12:03.004-04:002016-10-16T23:12:03.004-04:00Who's bickering? I've made some points (ma...Who's bickering? I've made some points (many of which have already been made by others). If you can respond to the points, fine. If not, I'm going to try and follow your version and reasoning, but so far I cannot, because you have multiple posts that don't tie it all together, at least not for me. I am not clear what your theory is, nor how it accounts for the evidence. Respectfully, it seems like you have many a counterpoint, but they are all supposition. I think, though I may be wrong, that you are assuming John has to be innocent because there is no proof of prior molestation? But Patsy can be guilty even though there is nothing more than a theory that she would go to such extremes to cover up for Burke after a head bonk when calling 911 is what most parents would do? Not buying that...never did, and its why Alex Hunter could not prosecute. He did know who to accuse of what! -LEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-77380849782476491902016-10-16T23:11:23.106-04:002016-10-16T23:11:23.106-04:00I think JR was trying to frame PR, possibly not ou...I think JR was trying to frame PR, possibly not outright, but if the intruder theory did not work then he wanted PR to take the fall. That seems to me to be the only logical explanation to me, for him, using her pad and pen and putting use your good southern common sense and then handing that pen and pad right over to LE. Possibly JR took PR's sweater and rubbed it all over the crime scene or dropped some of her hairs there. The fiber evidence just doesnt make sense whether secondary or not. By all logic, JR should have more fibers at the scene than PR. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04737786478506148483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-79708467817830024992016-10-16T23:07:45.855-04:002016-10-16T23:07:45.855-04:00While it isn't necessary to establish motive b...While it isn't necessary to establish motive beyond reasonable doubt in order to convict, motive is an important factor in assessing any crime. In the second edition of my book I added a chapter devoted to this issue, which now appears as Chapter Twelve, titled "A Motive for Murder." It's pretty speculative, but it does demonstrate that fear of exposure as an incestuous child molester is indeed a highly plausible motive. While most victims fail to report their molestation for many years, that is certainly not always the case. And as CC has very intelligently speculated, it's possible John feared that a more thorough vaginal exam of his daughter was imminent in the near future.<br /><br />All very speculative of course, because there is no direct evidence that John had been abusing JonBenet. But there IS strong evidence consistent with prior abuse, for sure. And his fibers WERE found in her private parts -- not easily explained.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-7575633760768699452016-10-16T23:03:04.164-04:002016-10-16T23:03:04.164-04:00She didn't think of it nor did she think of th... She didn't think of it nor did she think of the basement window since he went down there and broke it. He could have unlocked a door as well, but he chose the window since it was in the basement where they may not have heard him come in since they were "sleeping." Or at least one of them was. At that point his job was to clean up her lose ends and finish staging. He had to go with the note at that point. Getting the money together, waiting for the call or pretending to wait for the call. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-34530575839535978332016-10-16T22:59:25.451-04:002016-10-16T22:59:25.451-04:00So says John, the liar. So says John, the liar. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-15840473367006911812016-10-16T22:25:48.890-04:002016-10-16T22:25:48.890-04:00Does absolute evil selfishness count as motivation...Does absolute evil selfishness count as motivation?Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16611803966705474656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-18598665184985731422016-10-16T22:21:46.767-04:002016-10-16T22:21:46.767-04:00If John didn't know until later, and it was Pa...If John didn't know until later, and it was Patsy who wrote the note, then why didn't SHE unlock a door?DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-26903754612514491442016-10-16T21:54:16.494-04:002016-10-16T21:54:16.494-04:00Wow Ms D, I am very sorry you had to go through th...Wow Ms D, I am very sorry you had to go through that :( Thank you for sharing such personal information. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04737786478506148483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-10925629648238256362016-10-16T16:11:44.640-04:002016-10-16T16:11:44.640-04:00Also, there is something funny going on with the P...Also, there is something funny going on with the Patsy Ramsey's writing exemplars and comparisons that are made public. All of her full exemplars look nothing like RN, yet some of the comparisons, Cina Wong's in particular, look exactly like her handwriting in side by side comparisonsv yet do not look like her full exemplars. If you look at her London letter or any other full exemplar it is a completely different style.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04737786478506148483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-78108992020263216892016-10-16T15:56:18.338-04:002016-10-16T15:56:18.338-04:00I'm afraid I don't follow... Minnesota Lin...I'm afraid I don't follow... Minnesota LindaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-49599349095908765612016-10-16T15:39:04.601-04:002016-10-16T15:39:04.601-04:00It is funny because I have said that exact same th...It is funny because I have said that exact same thing to Doc before. It requires some time and a little study into Fausto Brugnatellis comparisons and some reading on some of Doc's old blogs. The note is actually a very very smart, cunning piece of work. The whole note is a plan with its real purlose meant to slip right on past the reader. I am not sure why it didnt work for PR to call 911, possibly she did not read past a first few lines and went hyterical. I dont know and I am still baffled because I still think PR knew and contributed to the cover up at some point. My only thought was that possibly at some point JR told PR that BR had done it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04737786478506148483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-16217746136247412982016-10-16T13:17:19.440-04:002016-10-16T13:17:19.440-04:00Let me ask you this Keiser. The RN is a "ram...Let me ask you this Keiser. The RN is a "rambling mess of erratic, nonsensical misdirection" with the intention of, if written by John (and Doc's theory) was directed at Patsy to not call LE then it didn't work did it? Why would John write such an erratic nonsensical misdirected note on the hope and risk that Patsy would buy it and not call LE? Does that sound like a very concise, calculating, thoughtful John Ramsey? To me the note smacks of an irrational, frantic, come up with something in the heat of the moment Patsy. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.com