tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post5655256012399816797..comments2024-02-23T18:09:21.379-05:00Comments on Solving the JonBenet Ramsey Case: Casey Anthony?DocGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comBlogger107125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-83640346625016768182017-07-04T10:22:22.775-04:002017-07-04T10:22:22.775-04:00Not if it was the plan I've outlined, which wo...Not if it was the plan I've outlined, which would have been totally blown by Patsy's 911 call. And John did not voluntarily find the body, he was told to search the entire house for clues, so he had no choice.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-66003945709526456422017-07-04T10:20:39.148-04:002017-07-04T10:20:39.148-04:00Yes, thank you. I think it possible she knows who ...Yes, thank you. I think it possible she knows who killed her daughter, but is afraid of that person.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-4966624697192636102017-07-04T08:09:32.257-04:002017-07-04T08:09:32.257-04:00Why would John then discover the body some 8.5 hou...Why would John then discover the body some 8.5 hours after LE arrived? Seems like his plan was working. Gumshoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547143220583770679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-36351257786039123812017-06-16T09:25:54.315-04:002017-06-16T09:25:54.315-04:00When delving into Casey's background she herse... When delving into Casey's background she herself was doted on as a child but there has to be something in that background that would have her think that making up stories and lying was integral to her survival. She pretended to go to work every day for a job she had gotten fired from and take Caylee to a babysitter who didn't exist. I believe this is why Jose Baez, her attorney, floated the story that her father had abused her - and her brother molested her, as some kind of explanation for her construct of a fantasy world and lying.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-37825398265733082632017-06-16T08:59:46.363-04:002017-06-16T08:59:46.363-04:00Thanks so much for that link, Canuck. Learning so ...Thanks so much for that link, Canuck. Learning so many of the personal details, as presented there, leaves me extremely moved and saddened. <br /><br />I could not help thinking of Hitchcock's great movie, "Psycho," where this man who was so attached to his mother refused to accept her death, never reported it to the authorities, and left her body to rot in the chair where she died and went on with his life as though nothing had happened.<br /><br />Is it possible that something similar happened with Casey? That she was unable accept the death of her daughter (for whatever reason -- we may never know) and thus went on living her usual, "normal" life as though nothing had happened? It could have been a form of denial, later bolstered by a series of lies as the truth was catching up with her.<br /><br />I wouldn't rule out such a scenario. But I also believe it possible that Cayley could have been murdered by someone Casey knew and was afraid of. In that case, her lies would have been a cover for a truth she was too afraid to reveal. <br /><br />If she had actually murdered her daughter herself, then I see no reason for the long delay in reporting it. DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-14853104331042987642017-06-15T22:05:17.868-04:002017-06-15T22:05:17.868-04:00Really good thoughts, Canuck. The calls to Cindy ...Really good thoughts, Canuck. The calls to Cindy in rapid succession indicates something happened. When Cindy didn't pick up, wasn't it soon after that Casey's phone is shut off? This would be the time she took her into the garage and put her in the laundry bag, etc., then drove off. If she was afraid of anyone, as Doc brought up, it would be Cindy, and someone with such a low opinion of herself all ready would not want to suffer further berating.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-42573535374307439142017-06-15T19:59:04.923-04:002017-06-15T19:59:04.923-04:00Right, I think the writer makes a good case for Ca...Right, I think the writer makes a good case for Casey simply being preoccupied with the computer and phone while Caylee got outside and drowned in the backyard pool. It looks like it was the media who branded Casey a partier. Her friends and boyfriend said she wasn't much of a partier at all and she was against drug use. I was surprised to see that the image of her dancing in the hot body contest was considered very out of character for her by people who knew her. It was basically a one-off, yet the media showed it non-stop and used it to vilify her.<br /><br />I think her relationship with her mother was contentious at best and it was Cindy's assertion that Casey was a bad mother that led to the atrocious decisions she made after her daughter died. And Casey's boyfriend and another friend testified to her having nightmares during the infamous 31 days and her waking up in the night and crying while she watched videos of Caylee. You're right, she was a thief and a liar and a very immature young woman, but I don't think she was a murderer.Canucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-28910821619816911322017-06-15T19:45:28.309-04:002017-06-15T19:45:28.309-04:00Thanks, CC! Thanks, CC! Canucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-10382090437795178372017-06-15T19:37:23.910-04:002017-06-15T19:37:23.910-04:00Also Doc, I re read your June 11 comment about Cas...Also Doc, I re read your June 11 comment about Casey and "the evidence." I agree with you that just because her behavior was highly suspicious - not reporting the death, partying, getting a tattoo, appearing nonchalant and happy, moving out of the house, where was the evidence of murder? Where was the evidence she had chloroformed her daughter and put duct tape over her mouth (as Ashton suggested in his passionate emotional closing argument ("I only hope she was unconscious") or words to that effect. Baez made a good point by showing a photograph that Caylee was able to reach the sliding patio door latch leading out to the pool. The Coroner said she believed the manner of death was homicide, but with skeletal remains there could be no cause of death unfortunately. I would appreciate your input on this case if you would like, this is your blog site. It's just interesting to note as you pointed out, that she concocted a story to explain why no one had seen Caylee over 30 days, when she got busted by Cindy. If it was an accident, why not tell someone immediately. Or since she made lying her lifestyle, why not concoct an accident lie. Very astute Doc.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-56171604292261409842017-06-15T16:50:19.841-04:002017-06-15T16:50:19.841-04:00Hi Canuck, this is similar to the article I sent ...Hi Canuck, this is similar to the article I sent J and it's a good one - different link. It shows a timeline and talks about how she would have been on the computer and her phone when the alleged murder would have taken place (and shows it with a graphic display as in the link sent to J. Also that there are other explanations for the high level of chloroform odor in the trunk of her car. Casey was no angel, a liar and a thief, did not report her daughter missing (or dead), likely moved her corpse and drove around with her in the trunk for days, but again, there was 0 evidence she mixed the chloroform anywhere and Ashton did not make his case.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-37748582501768892872017-06-15T15:56:06.399-04:002017-06-15T15:56:06.399-04:00Always a pleasure to see you here, Canuck. Thanks...Always a pleasure to see you here, Canuck. Thanks for the link; I'll check it out this evening when I have more time.CChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07982213709500570429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-7836211302699459552017-06-15T14:07:34.386-04:002017-06-15T14:07:34.386-04:00I know the conversation has moved on from Casey An...I know the conversation has moved on from Casey Anthony, but if anyone's still interested, I found this blog that lays out a well-researched theory of what actually happened that day. (And it uses evidence in existence, so I think Doc would approve.)<br /><br />https://statevcasey.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/mystery-solved/#more-626Canucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-1072758350465096462017-06-12T23:25:18.065-04:002017-06-12T23:25:18.065-04:00Just curious, any readers here make it to Crime Co...Just curious, any readers here make it to Crime Con this past weekend in Indianapolis? It was a great time! I met some of the investigators that did the CBS special. -MMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-26791182257100688142017-06-12T21:42:19.021-04:002017-06-12T21:42:19.021-04:00There is a well organized propaganda campaign driv...There is a well organized propaganda campaign driven by "friends of John" to foment public suspicion toward intruders, Patsy, Burke, or some combination of the three, as the killer(s) of JonBenet. Is there a Nobel Peace Prize for "Gaslighting"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-86186121428574057502017-06-12T18:36:13.559-04:002017-06-12T18:36:13.559-04:00Of course you do.
Smith's original e-book cam...Of course you do.<br /><br />Smith's original e-book came out in April, 2015. He updated it to include the Phillips attribution and the plea bargain claptrap last December.<br /><br />No, I think nothing of the kind. It's impossible to defame the dead - John has no cause of action against Smith.<br />CChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07982213709500570429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-69605064526778116002017-06-12T18:20:51.922-04:002017-06-12T18:20:51.922-04:00I really know nothing about him. Nor am I aware o...I really know nothing about him. Nor am I aware of Hercule's comments. Apparently he's added on to his book, which his website says came out December 1, 2016 - and if it suggested a theory that Patsy was responsible for her daughter's death by dragging her up the stairs and then letting go which caused her to fall, then struck a deal with the BDP, don't you think John would have sued by now? Just a thought. I still do admire Hercule. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-47529789484769799022017-06-12T17:53:27.828-04:002017-06-12T17:53:27.828-04:00I'm surprised you feel that way. Mr. Smith e-...I'm surprised you feel that way. Mr. Smith e-published his book in April of 2015, and 3 or 4 months later your once-hero, Hercule, lifted his theory (which was actually Steve Thomas's, just dressed up in psychobabble), and began posting it here as his own.CChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07982213709500570429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-65197889204821508452017-06-12T17:04:41.862-04:002017-06-12T17:04:41.862-04:00Not likely Laurence L. Smith's E-book will put...Not likely Laurence L. Smith's E-book will put a dent in the universe either.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980400715237199782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-71158001337889312392017-06-12T16:34:30.683-04:002017-06-12T16:34:30.683-04:00. . .and under no circumstances would Stan Garnett.... . .and under no circumstances would Stan Garnett be unaware of any plea bargain entered into by his predecessor, nor would he be making public statements that he knows who did it and will indict if the evidence comes together.CChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07982213709500570429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-11666243070036593422017-06-12T16:16:32.232-04:002017-06-12T16:16:32.232-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.CChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07982213709500570429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-53501588521062234852017-06-12T15:37:17.264-04:002017-06-12T15:37:17.264-04:00...not to mention the fact that nothing....absolut......not to mention the fact that nothing....absolutely nothing in the autopsy report suggested injuries consistent with falling down a flight of stairs. There would have been other broken bones, fractures, and contusions all over her body. <br /><br />Mike<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-88300626882303213242017-06-12T13:54:08.689-04:002017-06-12T13:54:08.689-04:00This guy is either a total charlatan or an easily ...This guy is either a total charlatan or an easily manipulated dupe. First of all, Judith Phillips turned on Patsy shortly after the murder and would have been an unlikely person for Patsy to confide in. Her husband wrote an indignant book on the case, focusing on Patsy's guilt, but with no mention of the story related above. <br /><br />And if JonBenet had been killed by falling down the stairs there would certainly have been no need for a coverup, not to mention one as elaborate as we see in this case. Talk about fake news. Sheesh.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-63176780945012614342017-06-12T13:32:53.143-04:002017-06-12T13:32:53.143-04:00Continued: "It can only be postulated that th...Continued: "It can only be postulated that the Boulder Police Department decision to keep the confession by Patsy Ramsey concealed, was due to defamation suits brought by two people who had been named by the Ramsey’s as having been suspects and had their suits dismissed by U.S. District Judge Julie Carnes on March 31, 2003. Additionally, a 50 million dollar libel and defamation suit brought by the Ramsey’s against former Boulder detective Steve Thomas resulted in an undisclosed settlement. Mr. Thomas had stated in his book ‘ Inside The Ramsey Investigation ’ that he believed Patsy had direct involvement in JonBenet’s death. This undisclosed settlement would have to be revisited if Patsy’s confession was made public. If a Patsy Ramsey confession was officially revealed various law suits against the Ramsey’s that were dismissed would have to be revisited, not to mention exposing the incompetence of Boulder law enforcement during the investigation of JonBenet’s death and then not investigating whether a staircase fall could have been fatal to her upon hearing Patsy’s confession statement.<br /><br />"I emailed current Boulder D.A. Stan Garnett three times to inform him of the plea bargain in 2003 involving Patsy Ramsey, and he replied that he didn’t have the authority to investigate the Boulder Police Department. I wrote the Deputy Director of the CBI (Colorado Bureau Investigation) Ted Mink and informed him of the plea bargain and the ensuing concealment of it by Boulder law enforcement, but he was too bashful to reply to my letter. I talked by phone twice to CBI investigator Greg Sadir and he told me that only the Governor of Colorado could force an investigation of the Boulder police department. The law enforcement structure of Colorado makes it virtually impossible to force the Boulder police department to investigate itself, or be investigated by any other Colorado law enforcement body. The Attorney General’s office does not take investigative action unless prompted to do so by one or more District Attorney‘s. Thus, we can see how unlikely it would be for a Boulder D.A. to request an investigation of the Boulder police department that they interact with and are dependent upon to provide investigative material for in various criminal cases. Only the Colorado governor can force an investigation of any Colorado law enforcement entity. In conclusion, the JonBenet Ramsey case will stay interminably in the same state as it is today, with the case remaining officially open in cold case files, with no effort to ever be made in chasing after an imaginary intruder. It cannot be expected that anyone from the Boulder law enforcement fraternity will go rogue and produce plea bargain documents that would leave many law enforcement officials vulnerable to disciplinary and/or criminal action in a investigation cover-up."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-79327971803461439462017-06-12T13:31:38.614-04:002017-06-12T13:31:38.614-04:00According to psychologist Laurence L. Smith:
&quo...According to psychologist Laurence L. Smith:<br /><br />"In October of 2015, this author received a personal email from someone stating they were Judith Phillips (as also noted in the email address) and was the former Ramsey photographer and family friend. She told me that there was no bathroom incident that led to her death as had been conjectured by many including myself, given her bed soiling incidents and Patsy possibly having lost patience with her. I could not imagine what other type of accident could have led to her death. She stated that Patsy Ramsey had revealed to her in early 2003 in strict confidence that JonBenet had fallen and tumbled down the spiral staircase from near the second floor to the first floor, with the fall being fatal. Ms, Phillips went on to say that Patsy told her that she was literally dragging JonBenet up the spiral staircase by the scruff of her pajama top that was tightened around her neck by Patsy’s closed fist. This, because JonBenet would not go up the stairs, as she wanted to see some of her gifts still under the Christmas tree on the first floor. Patsy went on to tell Judith Phillips that after hearing gagging sounds from JonBenet she released her clenched fist hold of the pajama top around her neck, and in doing so accidentally pushed JonBenet backwards, with JonBenet losing her balance and tumbling down the stairs to the first floor landing. Ms Phillips further stated that in late 2003, representatives from the D.A.’s office which was in control of the case at the time met with Patsy Ramsey in her Lawyer Mr. Lin Wood’s office in Atlanta office. The result of this meeting was that a plea bargain was reached, wherein Patsy confessed to JonBenet having fallen fatally to her death from near atop the second floor staircase. In return, the D.A.’s office agreed not to pursue any charges of any type against her or any Ramsey family member. Evidently, the D.A.’s office chose not to investigate whether a fall as described by Patsy could have been fatal or not, and ignoring the associated strangulation factor stated in the autopsy report. Shortly after publishing my original book on this case I was told by a private investigator who had become involved in the Ramsey investigation that he had knowledge of a 2003 plea bargain confession between Patsy and the D.A.’s office. Ms. Phillips revelation now confirmed the investigators account to me. He requested that I not use his name lest he experience some form of retribution.<br /><br />"It can only be postulated that the Boulder Police Department decision to keep the confession by Patsy Ramsey concealed, was due to defamation suits brought by two people who had been named by the Ramsey’s as having been suspects and had their suits dismissed by U.S. District Judge Julie Carnes on March 31, 2003. Additionally, a 50 million dollar libel and defamation suit brought by the Ramsey’s against former Boulder detective Steve Thomas resulted in an undisclosed settlement. Mr. Thomas had stated in his book ‘ Inside The Ramsey Investigation ’ that he believed Patsy had direct involvement in JonBenet’s death. This undisclosed settlement would have to be revisited if Patsy’s confession was made public. If a Patsy Ramsey confession was officially revealed various law suits against the Ramsey’s that were dismissed would have to be revisited, not to mention exposing the incompetence of Boulder law enforcement during the investigation of JonBenet’s death and then not investigating whether a staircase fall could have been fatal to her upon hearing Patsy’s confession statement." To be cont.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-18502111748013418312017-06-11T23:13:35.695-04:002017-06-11T23:13:35.695-04:00As I've said many times, I don't think muc...As I've said many times, I don't think much of "the evidence" because for every piece of "evidence" there are two equal and opposite interpretations. Formula for going in circles.<br /><br />What bothers me most about this case is not any of the evidence but the very deep mystery of why Casey didn't report her daughter missing for so long. It's not enough to say she was just interested in her own pleasure or she refused to deal with what had happened. Even after this case is "solved" to everyone's satisfaction (if ever), I'll still be puzzled by that question.<br /><br />What is suggests to me is that she was and still is covering for the person who did it, someone she must be deathly afraid of. That's the only explanation that makes sense to me. But I know so little about this case that I won't insist. I'd love to hear some other theories, though.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.com