tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post4981377939493589801..comments2024-02-23T18:09:21.379-05:00Comments on Solving the JonBenet Ramsey Case: Kolar's BookDocGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-10340726063040623392019-10-08T01:08:33.702-04:002019-10-08T01:08:33.702-04:00This is tragic all round. As a parent, even with m...This is tragic all round. As a parent, even with my heart unequivocally broken and beyond and devastation, there is no way that I wouldn’t cover up for my son. How could I not? A parents love is undying. I couldn’t imagine him being taking away ( even after that horror) after losing another child to his possible actions. We can say all we like and what what we’d do in these peoples position. But, we have zero idea. All I know, is that I would protect my children at all cost Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-21554874932465366972017-10-08T08:19:51.302-04:002017-10-08T08:19:51.302-04:00I believe Burke hit her on the head after she sna...I believe Burke hit her on the head after she snatched a piece of pineapple. I believe J finished her off and put her in the basement.<br /> Staging was done by both the author of the incredulous 3 page rambling ransom note,(Patsy)and John.<br /> John goes directly to the basement when asked to go take another look at house fro JB.<br /> His daughter is not found dead while in police presence for even 30 minutes before he starts looking through thr mail and making plans to leave Boulder because he has an important business meeting!!!<br /> Who the #^$&#>@ attempts to leave his home, the crime scene of his 6 year old daughter's murder to attend a meeting, all the while leaving a supposed hysterical mother behind and your supposed innocent 9 year old son?!<br /> Their voices are deciphered on the 911 call to be found arguing about the post death of your daughter. The 911 dispatch heard all of this.<br /> They want us to believe an intruder murdered their daughter.<br /> I'm not buying the intruder bit...Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00338022892863788418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-39910332245410060912017-08-30T03:25:51.103-04:002017-08-30T03:25:51.103-04:00That would nicely fit if there wasn't this who...That would nicely fit if there wasn't this whole second<br /> part of her death which was brutal torture and strangulation by garrote. Prysyllahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05840145806470744963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-15575678019804920532017-08-30T03:18:47.093-04:002017-08-30T03:18:47.093-04:00I agree. I have always though if it was an intrude...I agree. I have always though if it was an intruder, he came in thru an unlocked front door. (The Ramseys said they weren't sure they'd locked it or not.Prysyllahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05840145806470744963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-22311259771632971762017-08-30T03:08:30.869-04:002017-08-30T03:08:30.869-04:00Having the Whites take Burke would have been risky...Having the Whites take Burke would have been risky if Burke was the killer. How do you get a 9 yr old to not tell them what ha just happened? The Whiles would have told investigators if Burke had implicated himself at all. John and Patsy actually told police they were suspicious of Priscilla White because they though she seemed jealous of Patsy.Prysyllahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05840145806470744963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-27665107906672548742017-08-30T02:41:04.539-04:002017-08-30T02:41:04.539-04:00The garrote was not simply a staging it was part o...The garrote was not simply a staging it was part of how she died - strangulation. And it was brutal, the ligature cut deep into her skin. How loving parents could turn into sick monsters seems so unlikely. Keep in mind too the knot was a complicated one - doubt Burke could do that.Prysyllahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05840145806470744963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-65937093374905427242017-07-24T03:08:46.447-04:002017-07-24T03:08:46.447-04:00In response to the comment about Burke not being a...In response to the comment about Burke not being able to "carry" her to the basement so it must have been someone stronger that killed her: <br />The book explains that there were partially wrapped presents in the basement but doesn't elaborate why this evidence is important (I believe he said it was due to legal reasons) but he does confirm that this is a key piece of evidence that ties everything together. If you keep in mind every piece of the puzzle, the presents explain how she ended up down there. <br />She eats the pineapple in the kitchen, Burke tells her he found some more presents downstairs. Of course, any child is going to want to see them so he takes her down there using the flashlight. When she kneels down to look at the presents on the floor, that is when he hits her over the head. That explains how she ended up there. No one had to carry her. The presents were "partially wrapped" because a nine year old child who has probably never wrapped a gift is not going to know how to do this, meaning the wrapping would appear sloppy-or partially done.<br />The murder has been solved. Thank you Mr. KolarOnLockkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08823009829910923675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-71702682257056447972016-10-12T19:59:22.324-04:002016-10-12T19:59:22.324-04:00I agree with Kolar in that it's absurd that Jo...I agree with Kolar in that it's absurd that John or Patsy murdered Jonbenet, as absurd as the idea of it being Burke. All the spider web does is show that MAYBE an intruder came in through a different way! <br />There's no solid evidence the Ramsey's are involved, only weak conjecture, and there IS evidence that points to the possibility of an intruder, including similar DNA found in three locations on her body, under her fingernails! <br />The basement window is a red herring. If one suggests that somebody slipped in through the garage door before it fully closed, or through the butler's kitchen entrance (for example), the whole spider web thing is meaningless. It's possible someone tried to get her body out that window in the suitcase and found it impossible, there is evidence that points in that direction. And everybody knows the window had been broken months earlier, so the broken glass is, again, a distraction. <br />The whole book is just another example of someone exploiting the pain and tragedy of others to seek profit and notoriety, whatever way you look at he case. <br />Too bad it's unlikely the real killer will ever be discovered. Too bad the ignorance of the general public has destroyed the lives of so many innocent people in it's zeal to demonize and judge others. So much so wrong with this case, the list of transgressions is long and getting longer as time passes. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09141289771131518104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-29211078701904079652016-10-01T05:39:53.567-04:002016-10-01T05:39:53.567-04:00The spider web in the window doesn't disprove ...The spider web in the window doesn't disprove an intruder, it only suggests that it's unlikely an intruder came in that window, and even that can't be said for certain. I have always believed the intruder or intruders accessed the house via the garage when the Ramsey's left. Maybe some other way. John said from the start he broke the window months before. I think somebody attempted to move the body out that window in the suitcase, and it's even possible that someone did enter without disturbing the spider web, who knows? It certainly doesn't eliminate an intruder. <br />That is all!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09141289771131518104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-48473309027255218232016-01-31T12:04:40.958-05:002016-01-31T12:04:40.958-05:00Um, no. My theory is that he hit her in the head (...Um, no. My theory is that he hit her in the head (he had hit her in the head with a golf club in the past by the way), and the parent thought she was dead, and one or both staged the other stuff. Your post leads me to believe you do not understand much of what many have proposed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13351611994055008303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-84194364241862343342015-11-30T22:29:11.589-05:002015-11-30T22:29:11.589-05:00I understand very well that parents have gone to g...I understand very well that parents have gone to great lengths to protect their children and I'm willing to admit that the Ramseys might have covered for Burke if he'd struck his sister over the head and she had died. But the facts of the case take us far beyond what we'd expect parents to do in such a case.<br /><br />First of all, if Burke had struck his sister over the head, and they wanted to cover for him, it could easily have been explained as an accident. I know of many cases where parents have lied to protect a child and even implicated themselves. But I've never encountered a case where the parents went to such extremes to do so, nor have I ever encountered a case where the staging of an intruder was done in such a bizarre manner. The child was sexually assaulted and strangled with a garotte-like device, then hidden away in a remote basement room, her panties were removed and replaced with another pair, she was covered with a blanket, and a 2 1/2 page "ransom" note was written that explained nothing since there was no kidnapping. I'm sorry, but that does not add up to covering for your child, it adds up to a botched attempt by an incestuous father to cover for himself. If John were ever put on trial I'd love to hear his testimony about how he was "only" trying to cover for his son. I wouldn't buy it and I doubt you would either.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-60280427624858885802015-11-30T19:14:50.815-05:002015-11-30T19:14:50.815-05:00DocG,
With all due respect, are you a parent? I wo...DocG,<br />With all due respect, are you a parent? I would be surprised if so because you are (and no offense meant here) tone deaf in your confident assertions regarding what parents would or wouldn't do to cover for one child killing another one of their children. I am a parent of three and can tell you unequivocally that my first instinct would be to cover for my damaged or troubled child whom I believed had emotional issues and could not control him or herself - regardless of how angry and devastated I was. And if even one other parent can reasonably claim that they would act similarly to protect their child in that situation then to be fair and unbiased you must assume that the Ramsey's could possibly have chosen to do the same. You are dismissive when others make assumptions regarding culpability in this case but your theory is similarly based on a house of cards of assumptions! A parents love is mysterious, irrational, and most importantly in light of this case -- unconditional. Thank you for allowing me to share my comment here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-42936947673199626212015-07-23T22:16:13.238-04:002015-07-23T22:16:13.238-04:00It is clear to me that JonBenet's death result...It is clear to me that JonBenet's death resulted from her older brother Burke. How so you ask? Burke was a troubled child and the attention that was given to JonBenet made him resentful of his younger sister. The motive was the attention that Burke wanted to badly even at all costs.<br /><br />Just because you are a child doesn't mean you are not capable of committing a crime especially if that child is stronger than the younger sibling. He could have easily lured his sister in the basement and struck her with an object to deliver a life threatening blow. <br /><br />Neighbors reported hearing noises and lights being on which would support the theory that Patsy Ramsey was up during the morning hours thus not changing out of her outfit the night before. She probably then followed the noise to the basement and saw her daughter lying lifelessly on the floor dying. Her son most likely was beside his sister thus causing Patsy to panic and have her husband finish the job of staging a crime scene while she wrote the ransom note. <br /><br />The Ramseys made a choice to protect their son and thus the reason they stayed up all night to keep the plan in motion. Early in the morning a frantic Patsy called their closest family friends who had a son close to Burke's age, the White's, to come over and take Burke back to the house because they did not want their son to be present and implicate himself in his sisters death. <br /><br />The Ramseys knew from the very beginning that if they made it look like JonBenet was kidnapped and that there was ransom note there would be no reason for it to be anything other than that. That is why they purposely called all their friends over which would contaminate the crime scene and by the time JonBenet was found, too many people would be in the house and conflicting accounts would be told thus compromising evidence and testimony.<br /><br />The decision to move soon after would take Burke out of the spot light, and that's why they lawyered up because the knew the spot lighting would be on them, not him. Patsy erratic behavior had to be under control so that is why she was put on Valium to give the illusion she was grieving while in actuality she was falling apart. <br /><br />Lastly, a parent covering up, lying for their child is nothing new or out of the ordinary. There are many crimes that are committed by children that have their parents lying in order to protect them. Does Natalie Holloway ring a bell? This little girls murder is sadly was another tragedy that will never have justice served because of an influential family that had the power, money and the right cards in their hand to influence the DA and other key players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-88283789795047929552015-04-05T10:33:43.595-04:002015-04-05T10:33:43.595-04:00The fibers from Patsy's jacket could easily ha...The fibers from Patsy's jacket could easily have gotten onto the tape via indirect transfer from JonBenet herself. Actually only four microscopic traces of fiber were found on that tape. If you read more on this blog you will learn that Patsy could not have been involved in either the murder or coverup. While technically it's possible that John could have been covering for Burke, it's far more likely that John is both the murderer and the stager. If you have specific questions about any aspect of this case, I suggest you use the search mechanism on the upper right of this blog to learn more.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-4739793893610488622015-04-05T02:43:05.115-04:002015-04-05T02:43:05.115-04:00I've read the Kolar book. If, as he implies, B...I've read the Kolar book. If, as he implies, Burke hit JonBenet over the head with the flashlight in the kitchen while she was eating pineapple and she immediately fell unconscious, how did he get her to the basement? Highly unlikely that he would have been strong enough to carry her down a flight of stairs. Kolar does not explain how this could have happened. Has he explained this elsewhere? If not, this is a massive gap in logic in his theory.<br /><br />For that reason, if Burke did kill her, he must have hit her in the head in the basement and subsequently molested and garroted her there after which her body was discovered by one or both parents who participated in the coverup (putting tape over her mouth, tying her hands, wrapping her in a blanket and writing the note). If the flashlight was the weapon used to hit her, who carried it back up stairs and left it on the counter in full view? If Kolar is correct and there was no externally visible injury to Jon Benet's head, one of the parent's could have found the flashlight downstairs, used it to look in the wine cellar and then absentmindedly carried it upstairs being unaware that it was a weapon. Or Burke could have used it to return upstairs in the dark. On the other hand, John asked for his golf clubs to be removed, suggesting that he might have either known or suspected that a golf club had been used to knock her unconscious. <br /><br />I do not believe that the molestation or garroting were staged. Either is far too horrific for a parent to have staged as a coverup. Whichever person previously molested her must be the person who hit her on the head and knocked her unconscious, molested and garroted her on that night (none of those things done as a coverup).<br /><br />Because there were fibers from Patsy's jacket on the tape which, according to Kolar, was applied after JonBenet died, it seems clear that Patsy staged the body (whether alone or with the help of John). The question is why? What did applying the tape and the wrist ties add? <br /><br />Then there's the matter of the long ransom note. The author was clearly irrational. A person thinking clearly would have written a very brief note to lessen the chances of it being traced to them. By all accounts, John behaved very coldly after the arrival of the police. Would he knowingly have allowed Patsy to write a long note? Is it possible that he didn't know she had written it until she called 911, after which it was too late? <br /><br />Who cut the fresh pineapple? Was it already cut and in the refrigerator? Has this ever been explored? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-16617930261876433842015-03-08T15:07:53.499-04:002015-03-08T15:07:53.499-04:00I had read 3 other books about the murder of JBR, ...I had read 3 other books about the murder of JBR, and then the Steve Thomas one. His book was superior to the other 3. But then I read Foreign Faction and couldn't believe it topped the Thomas book, but it did! <br /><br />What I enjoyed about both books was that they were filled with bare bone facts, and lots of them, especially in Foreign Faction. Both authors do have their own beliefs and theories, but with the facts and evidence laid out for your perusing, you too can come up with your own theory or choose to believe one of theirs. <br /><br />If you can only get or read one book on this case, Foreign Faction is the one to read. If you can obtain two, then also get the Steve Thomas one and read it first. FF will fill in the blanks in the Thomas book.<br /><br />As for reading John and Patsy's book, I'd say skip it. Not only is it not-surprisingly biased, but it is full of religious crap as well. I could barely stomach it and can't believe I actually made it through the entire thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-24799727708240401972014-07-30T07:40:11.972-04:002014-07-30T07:40:11.972-04:00But they could always have pretended they didn'...But they could always have pretended they didn't know anything about it. The bottom line is that there simply isn't any evidence that Burke was sexually active and very good reason to assume that, as a nine year old, he had no interest in girls. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. In this case there is NONE.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-74379253803516776442014-07-29T22:54:37.615-04:002014-07-29T22:54:37.615-04:00The rationale that I see for why the parents help ...The rationale that I see for why the parents help cover things up is that that they knew Burke was previously sexually molesting JBR. As such, when the sexual assault and murder happen they cover it up to protect Burke and themselves both legally and in the eyes of their friends and the public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-4928706848365676332014-02-03T20:56:49.970-05:002014-02-03T20:56:49.970-05:00DocG, remember that Patsy said that she had lost o...DocG, remember that Patsy said that she had lost one child and couldn't survive losing another. I am amazed that Burke was already seeing a psychiatris, bedwetting at such a late age, and seeming disconnected from family. I would love to see his medical records, wouldn't you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-52904879258701743622014-01-09T12:39:30.087-05:002014-01-09T12:39:30.087-05:00The bottom line on this for me is that imo you can...The bottom line on this for me is that imo you can't solve a crime through profiling. Profiling is a useful investigative tool that might possibly lead one to a viable suspect. But as I see it, it's NOT legitimate to accuse someone simply on the basis of a psychological profile -- especially if as in this case the profile is itself based on very shaky evidence.<br /><br />Kolar dismisses Patsy and John as suspects, simply because he can find no motive for them to do what was done. This despite his awareness of the coroner's report, consistent with chronic molestation.<br /><br />He can find no viable motive for Burke to have done it either, but he has no problem manufacturing one -- out of thin air.<br /><br />All because John was "ruled out." What a shame everyone bought into the truly outrageous decision to rule out the most likely suspect by far. And then focus on the least likely, by "process of elimination." Ye Gads!!!DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-22387101248367705802014-01-09T12:28:58.708-05:002014-01-09T12:28:58.708-05:00Sorry, but I see no strength at all in the Burke t...Sorry, but I see no strength at all in the Burke theory. If Burke killed JonBenet, his parents would have been furious with him. The last thing on their minds would have been covering for him. I can see parents covering for a child who murdered someone else's kid. But your own kid? No. They'd have tanned his hide and then called their lawyers, who would have informed them he could not be prosecuted.<br /><br />The ONLY reason Kolar came up with this theory is that he, like Steve Thomas, was desperate to find some way out of the dilemma produced by John being "ruled out" as writer of the note. Once we ruled John back IN, then the mystery dissolves and all becomes clear.DocGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359004200002936544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-9985616618413485832014-01-09T11:10:34.715-05:002014-01-09T11:10:34.715-05:00I should add that no matter what the books suggest...I should add that no matter what the books suggest, I am convinced that this crime was an inside job. The Burke theory's strength is that it can explain how the murder could have happened and been staged to appear as if an intruder did it better than other theories. After all, how could this crime happen in the matter that it did without waking others in the house? If one child killed another, it's easy to see how the parents would do their best to cover it up. John had already lost his other daughter just a few years earlier.Aaron H.http://thegenerationwhypodcast.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-39479672838555393012014-01-09T11:00:26.604-05:002014-01-09T11:00:26.604-05:00I interviewed Kolar after reading the book. It'...I interviewed Kolar after reading the book. It's a complicated crime scene with one victim, one killer, and a couple of others who staged the crime scene. So no, the killer never attempted a cover-up or staging of the crime scene. <br /><br />Anyone who reads the book can answer the questions posed by those who haven't. That's why you read the book in the first place. To understand how someone could kill, but become a normal, functioning individual just a few years later. Aaron H.http://thegenerationwhypodcast.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-58499377956242455872013-01-22T22:14:14.012-05:002013-01-22T22:14:14.012-05:00You have to be nuts to believe that a 9 years old ...You have to be nuts to believe that a 9 years old bludgeoned his sister that hard, fashioned a garrote, brutally strangled her and more than that, at that frail age, was clever enough not to leave evidence pointing at him; moreover, such a boy has managed to keep going with his life without revealing some kind of trauma, all those years later. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6494242281396312957.post-46928108839930740622012-08-06T17:56:02.028-04:002012-08-06T17:56:02.028-04:00I wonder if he's silent on JDI because he does...I wonder if he's silent on JDI because he doesn't want a law suit? <br /><br />IMO BEI is absurd for many reasons. Too many to go into here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com